Issues with VPN

Ciochi said:

Hey there, I got an issue with VPN Pure and it's the only forum I get issues with, neither with institutional sites or whatsoever.

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Hi,

Could you describe the kind of issues you are having?

Thank you,

Andre

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Yeah the forum doesn't get on with VPNs. Often have to reload the page multiple times. I'll make a video next time it happens.

Yeah, it doesn't open pages at all, constantly refreshing.

d.healey said:

Yeah the forum doesn't get on with VPNs. Often have to reload the page multiple times. I'll make a video next time it happens.

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Ciochi said:

Yeah, it doesn't open pages at all, constantly refreshing.

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When I use a VPN, I have issues with Netflix, Scribd, Facebook, it's a pain. But not with the forum.

We have the forum's security as tight as possible without impeding usage. Some VPN connections are oversaturated so in my case, I sometimes need to clear my cache and pick a new one. I'm not sure there's anything we can do to avoid this as VPNs use is a personal choice. I'm also on WiFi (not my choice) so I have interruptions multiple times a day where I need to do this reset.

But I'll see what else I can find. Feel free to offer comments and suggestions. though.

Regards,

Andre

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creativeforge said:

When I use a VPN, I have issues with Netflix, Scribd, Facebook, it's a pain. But not with the forum.

We have the forum's security as tight as possible without impeding usage. Some VPN connections are oversaturated so in my case, I sometimes need to clear my cache and pick a new one. I'm not sure there's anything we can do to avoid this as VPNs use is a personal choice. I'm also on WiFi (not my choice) so I have interruptions multiple times a day where I need to do this reset.

But I'll see what else I can find. Feel free to offer comments and suggestions. though.

Regards,

Andre

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I really don't have any issue with anything apart this forum. Nor Facebook, neither Amazon or any Institutional pages, or even Paypal. Maybe you are blocking some IPs?

Ciochi said:

Maybe you are blocking some IPs?

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Absolutely not.

I sometimes have issues with sites that use cloudflare or similar services, often I just have to solve a captcha and it lets me in. No problems with FB or PayPal though.

Ciochi said:

Hey there, I got an issue with VPN Pure and it's the only forum I get issues with, neither with institutional sites or whatsoever.

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While I was impressed with PureVPN, there are still many areas that need improvement. For example, PureVPN doesn’t have advanced security features like RAM-only infrastructure, and you have to pay extra for security features like DDoS protection and port forwarding — other top VPNs like Private Internet Access include DDoS protection and port forwarding in their regular subscription price. Plus, PureVPN only allows P2P traffic on servers in 30+ countries, causes noticeable slowdowns on some remote servers, its live chat reps can’t answer advanced questions, and its email support is not always helpful.
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Hope this helps,

André

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d.healey said:

I sometimes have issues with sites that use cloudflare or similar services, often I just have to solve a captcha and it lets me in. No problems with FB or PayPal though.

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Facebook will have me jump through hoops to validate my identity due to noticing I connected via VPN, so it can't "locate me as usual." It could take up to 3 minutes just to log in. And it's the same for weeks at a time. VPNs are not created equal, and spammers using them doesn't help either. If you happen to connect with an IP that's abused, more trouble. Etc. We're condemned to sift through a "degraded and polluted online ecosystem."

André

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Also about PureVPN... a few things worth noting?



Now, did this behaviour start lately (just loading), is this new or has been ongoing?

The other problem I get when using the VPN is this appears a lot when trying to post:



This is what I see in the browser console.


I assume this bit is the important part (if any of it is)

d.healey said:

The other problem I get when using the VPN is this appears a lot when trying to post:



This is what I see in the browser console.

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This page uses the non standard property “zoom”. Consider using calc() in the relevant property values, or using “transform” along with “transform-origin: 0 0”. page-6
Layout was forced before the page was fully loaded. If stylesheets are not yet loaded this may cause a flash of unstyled content. preamble.min.js:4:230
Some cookies are misusing the recommended “SameSite“ attribute 11
Request to access cookie or storage on “https://c.statcounter.com/t.php?sc_project=11444057&u1=B10803C6AF2B4F8B028B72DDC8CBE74D&java=1&security=b65a07e4&sc_snum=1&sess=a8f3c4&sc_rum_e_s=1588&sc_rum_e_e=1589&sc_rum_f_s=0&sc_rum_f_e=1585&p=0&rcat=d&rdomo=d&rdomg=14180&bb=1&jg=14180&rr=1619.781.383.309.232.17.5.4.3&resolution=2637&h=1104&camefrom=&u=https%3A//vi-control.net/community/conversations/redacted.81827/page-6%23convMessage-286707&t=redacted%20%7C%20Page%206%20%7C%20VI-CONTROL&get_config=true” was blocked because it came from a tracker and content blocking is enabled.
The resource at “https://vi-control.net/community/styles/fonts/fa/fa-brands-400-min.woff2?_v=5.15.3.1671735734” preloaded with link preload was not used within a few seconds. Make sure all attributes of the preload tag are set correctly. page-6
PHP: <!doctype html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow">
<title>One moment, please...</title>
<style>
body {
    background: #F6F7F8;
    color: #303131;
    font-family: sans-serif;
    margin-top: 45vh;
    text-align: center;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Please wait while your request is being verified...</h1>
<form id="wsidchk-form" style="display:none;" action="/z0f76a1d14fd21a8fb5fd0d03e0fdc3d3cedae52f" method="get">
<input type="hidden" id="wsidchk" name="wsidchk"/>
</form>
<script>
(function(){
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        x=function(){try{return !!window.addEventListener;}catch(e){return !!0;} },
        y=function(y,z){x() ? document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",y,z) : document.attachEvent("onreadystatechange",y);};
    y(function(){
        document.getElementById('wsidchk').value = west + east;
        document.getElementById('wsidchk-form').submit();
    }, false);
})();
</script>
</body>
</html> core-compiled.js:4:1659
PHP: <!doctype html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow">
<title>One moment, please...</title>
<style>
body {
    background: #F6F7F8;
    color: #303131;
    font-family: sans-serif;
    margin-top: 45vh;
    text-align: center;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Please wait while your request is being verified...</h1>
<form id="wsidchk-form" style="display:none;" action="/z0f76a1d14fd21a8fb5fd0d03e0fdc3d3cedae52f" method="get">
<input type="hidden" id="wsidchk" name="wsidchk"/>
</form>
<script>
(function(){
    var west=+((+!+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])),
        east=+((+!+[]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])),
        x=function(){try{return !!window.addEventListener;}catch(e){return !!0;} },
        y=function(y,z){x() ? document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",y,z) : document.attachEvent("onreadystatechange",y);};
    y(function(){
        document.getElementById('wsidchk').value = west + east;
        document.getElementById('wsidchk-form').submit();
    }, false);
})();
</script>
</body>
</html> core-compiled.js:4:1659
PHP: <!doctype html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow">
<title>One moment, please...</title>
<style>
body {
    background: #F6F7F8;
    color: #303131;
    font-family: sans-serif;
    margin-top: 45vh;
    text-align: center;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Please wait while your request is being verified...</h1>
<form id="wsidchk-form" style="display:none;" action="/z0f76a1d14fd21a8fb5fd0d03e0fdc3d3cedae52f" method="get">
<input type="hidden" id="wsidchk" name="wsidchk"/>
</form>
<script>
(function(){
    var west=+((+!+[])+(+!+[]+[])+(+!+[]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])),
        east=+((+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])),
        x=function(){try{return !!window.addEventListener;}catch(e){return !!0;} },
        y=function(y,z){x() ? document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",y,z) : document.attachEvent("onreadystatechange",y);};
    y(function(){
        document.getElementById('wsidchk').value = west + east;
        document.getElementById('wsidchk-form').submit();
    }, false);
})();
</script>
</body>
</html> core-compiled.js:4:1659
PHP: <!doctype html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow">
<title>One moment, please...</title>
<style>
body {
    background: #F6F7F8;
    color: #303131;
    font-family: sans-serif;
    margin-top: 45vh;
    text-align: center;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Please wait while your request is being verified...</h1>
<form id="wsidchk-form" style="display:none;" action="/z0f76a1d14fd21a8fb5fd0d03e0fdc3d3cedae52f" method="get">
<input type="hidden" id="wsidchk" name="wsidchk"/>
</form>
<script>
(function(){
    var west=+((+!+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![])+(+!+[]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])),
        east=+((+!+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+![])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+[])+(+!+[]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![]+!![])+(+!+[]+!![]+[])),
        x=function(){try{return !!window.addEventListener;}catch(e){return !!0;} },
        y=function(y,z){x() ? document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded",y,z) : document.attachEvent("onreadystatechange",y);};
    y(function(){
        document.getElementById('wsidchk').value = west + east;
        document.getElementById('wsidchk-form').submit();
    }, false);
})();
</script>
</body>
</html> core-compiled.js:4:1659

I assume this bit is the important part (if any of it is)

Code:

Some cookies are misusing the recommended “SameSite“ attribute 11
Request to access cookie or storage on “https://c.statcounter.com/t.php?sc_project=11444057&u1=B10803C6AF2B4F8B028B72DDC8CBE74D&java=1&security=b65a07e4&sc_snum=1&sess=a8f3c4&sc_rum_e_s=1588&sc_rum_e_e=1589&sc_rum_f_s=0&sc_rum_f_e=1585&p=0&rcat=d&rdomo=d&rdomg=14180&bb=1&jg=14180&rr=1619.781.383.309.232.17.5.4.3&resolution=2637&h=1104&camefrom=&u=https%3A//vi-control.net/community/conversations/redacted.81827/page-6%23convMessage-286707&t=redacted%20%7C%20Page%206%20%7C%20VI-CONTROL&get_config=true” was blocked because it came from a tracker and content blocking is enabled.
The resource at “https://vi-control.net/community/styles/fonts/fa/fa-brands-400-min.woff2?_v=5.15.3.1671735734” preloaded with link preload was not used within a few seconds. Make sure all attributes of the preload tag are set correctly. page-6

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Thank you David,

This is very helpful, I'll take a closer look.

Regards,

André

Here's a video - https://filedn.eu/larUQgXOwVjQdvpPaD96lHH/2023-01-30 20-31-31.mkv

d.healey said:

Here's a video - https://filedn.eu/larUQgXOwVjQdvpPaD96lHH/2023-01-30 20-31-31.mkv

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Very strange, and the foum shows with CSS broken like this all the time at first for you?

Which browser are you using, and OS?

creativeforge said:

Very strange, and the foum shows with CSS broken like this all the time at first for you?

Which browser are you using, and OS?

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No, not always. It just sometimes does it, seems to be random. If I disable the VPN there's no problem, I'm using Mullvad VPN, Firefox on Debian testing.

d.healey said:

No, not always. It just sometimes does it, seems to be random. If I disable the VPN there's no problem, I'm using Mullvad VPN, Firefox on Debian testing.

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Can you try a full official release version of FF and see if this occurs? And you're on Mac or PC?

creativeforge said:

Can you try a full official release version of FF and see if this occurs? And you're on Mac or PC?

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Sorry for the confusion. My OS is Debian testing. The version of Firefox I'm using is 109.0 which I believe is the latest version.

Huh. I never have problems with VPN.

Honestly, if the site is making things difficult for people to use VPNs, I consider that a good thing.

From a forum perspective, VPNs make it much more difficult to keep track of trolls/shills/bots/etc. (On a related topic, eliminating anonymity would probably eliminate 75% of all problems we have here.) So I have zero interest in making it easier for people to hide who they are.

Don't get me wrong, I can understand why some users might have privacy concerns. The last thing I want is for my wife to see my Facebook feed and wonder why I'm suddenly getting a bunch of Animal Porn ads.

But VI-Control ain't that. So if you're having trouble logging in while on a VPN, my advice is ... don't log in with a VPN. Because with all due respect to the Privacy Warriors, there is an unfortunate subset of trolls amongst you, so I'm not spending any resources making the site easier for them.