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This is the story of Samuel the snail, who, while listening to Sheena's sweet voice alongside one of the machines from the garden and an old string quartet, came across a strange top hat. Upon entering it, he traveled to a fantasy world where he transcended his snail form and saw the world and reality like he had never seen before. Samuel was never the same again.
 
So before I pull the trigger on additional SynthV voices, I figured I'd see how far I can go with Mai alone. Enjoy :)


I love the song - it bops right a long and the chorus loops in my head after the song is over. :cool:

I'm not a big fan of Mai's vocal sound in general - not that it's bad, it's just a not a timbre my ears are used to hearing. Perhaps a bit too "Japanese" in nasal placement or something.

My immediate - and incorrect - conclusion about Mai was that I wouldn't be able to use her voice. But setting the Tone Shift all the way down to -400 cents and Gender to .300 moves her a lot closer to Qing Su.

There are real timbral differences between different voices, and I believe plosives convert from Chinese to English better than from Japanese. So getting another voice makes still makes sense.

But... cross-lingual training imposes a bit of homeogenity on the voices, and you even more of mileage out of the voices by playing with those parameters.

I'm not saying you should do this on this song. The last person you should be listening to about what a female voice on a pop song should sound like is some old white guy. :roflmao:
 
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Ooh Tone Shift is a great tip, that really does take some of the nasal quality out. I got so lost in the individual notes that I completely forgot about those global voice settings. Thank you!
 
That's interesting. I was struck by how clear the vocals are on your song with Feng Yi and wondered whether much work on phonemes / voicing etc was necessary achieve that clarity.
I didn't really have to work with the phonemes much to get the pronunciation that I wanted. One of the reasons I chose Feng Yi was because I'd listened to all the voices, and she had one of the less accented voices.

There seem to be more problems with the lower register, so staying in the mid/high register helps. And the Chinese voices seem to handle phonemes like t and d, where the coarticulation seems to present issues with Japanese voices.

Honestly, I probably need to work a bit more on getting the vocals to sit inside of the mix, but I like to make sure the vocals are never buried in the mix. So I'll go through the vocals after they're rendered into the DAW, slice up the waveform and normalize them - sometimes from syllable to syllable - and then go back and reduce any unintentionally amplified consonants in the process.

For example, here's the final phrase, and each of the lines is where I've sliced the vocal:

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Fortunately for me, Reaper automatically creates fades at slice points, so edits are seamless:

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This is a bit tedious, but it only takes a couple of minutes. Plus, it gives me a chance to really listen to the vocal and catch any words that have typos that I somehow missed.

This gives me the ability to control the clarity of the vocal without having to rely on a compressors or de-essers. This track didn't require it, but I'll also use TrackSpacer to carve out space when instruments are encroaching on the vocals.

And, of course, mixing the track so the background stays subordinate to the vocals helps. :laugh:
 
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This gives me the ability to control the clarity of the vocal without having to rely on a compressors or de-essers
Thanks for the detail. I have been relying on de-essers & compressors coupled with loudness control in SynthV, but have noted occasional loss of clarity - your approach gives me some food for thought. I am currently working with Sheena whose voice fits my song well, but the diction is not so clear hence my interest in your comment re Feng Yi.
 
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